tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post107742647583390319..comments2024-03-28T06:14:54.076-04:00Comments on And So It Begins...: Top 10 ESPN 30 for 30sAlex Withrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-8483852675750101182013-12-27T12:40:55.473-05:002013-12-27T12:40:55.473-05:00Glad you dig the post! I'll be curious to hear...Glad you dig the post! I'll be curious to hear what you think of Benji. That one gutted me.Alex Withrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-72971952143541358592013-12-26T14:37:02.871-05:002013-12-26T14:37:02.871-05:00Love this post. I have the ESPN 30 for 30 box set ...Love this post. I have the ESPN 30 for 30 box set sitting at home, but I have only seen maybe half of them at most. I'm glad you highlighted Winning Time, Once Brothers and June 17 though -- those three have been standouts for me as well. I'm going to have to watch Benji soon.Eric @ The Warning Signhttp://twscritic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-24034516503766627202013-12-21T18:17:57.847-05:002013-12-21T18:17:57.847-05:00Thanks dude. Oh man, as a sports fan, I think you&...Thanks dude. Oh man, as a sports fan, I think you'd love many of these. Truly.Alex Withrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-39091887366600808362013-12-21T01:07:14.220-05:002013-12-21T01:07:14.220-05:00Cool list man. It's funny: I don't watch 3...Cool list man. It's funny: I don't watch 30 for 30, but I'm a sports guy and often watch Sportscenter. I should check some of these out.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08596682195753811295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-30832239600280082222013-12-18T16:59:41.549-05:002013-12-18T16:59:41.549-05:00I mean seriously, this poor guy who just went up f...I mean seriously, this poor guy who just went up for the ball... I really felt bad for him too. I quite enjoyed Gibney's extended explanation of what a scapegoat actually is, and how this situation mirrored that Biblical story so accurately. Scary shit.Alex Withrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-2695778752486960522013-12-18T16:27:14.829-05:002013-12-18T16:27:14.829-05:00Yeah when Petrovic started his career he didn'...Yeah when Petrovic started his career he didn't do much, but when he went to the Nets he took off.<br /><br />The Bartman thing was just a scapegoat. alex gonzalez had an error on a routine ball shortly after that would've easily ended the inning too.<br /><br />They haven't been the world series since 1945 i think, so it would've been a huge deal to go. they were up big and should've won but eh. <br /><br />i can't put the treatment into rational terms because it was completely irrational, terrible, embarrassing, among other things. i feel so badly for the guy.Evanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270889107081469274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-14488711460311222632013-12-18T13:45:09.685-05:002013-12-18T13:45:09.685-05:00I loved The Other Dream Team! In fact I... think I...I loved The Other Dream Team! In fact I... think I commented on your post, because I was so happy to see it listed in your Top 10. I could be wrong though.<br /><br />My friend back home had the box set, so I watched a lot with him since 2011. And yeah, I found that typing out their actual titles in Netflix works better. But still, most all of them are available on YouTube, if you don't have a problem watching them that way. I love these damn things.Alex Withrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-13114136415647754412013-12-18T13:43:05.566-05:002013-12-18T13:43:05.566-05:00I honestly didn't know Petrović became a star....I honestly didn't know Petrović became a star. Once Brothers didn't really show me that. I know nothing about sports, only what these docs told me.Alex Withrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-74243885813541298702013-12-18T13:42:24.804-05:002013-12-18T13:42:24.804-05:00Thanks for the catch (see what I did there!??!?!)....Thanks for the catch (see what I did there!??!?!). But okay, this makes the public crucifixion of Bartman that much more insane to me. IF the Cubs had caught that ball and IF they had made four more outs and IF they had won that game, they STILL had to win the World Series to win it all? There are so many ifs and ors and buts in that equation for the Cubs to go all the way. Blaming a World Series loss on one hard-to-catch foul ball on one poor bastard... that just seems ridiculous.Alex Withrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-40143812458626858172013-12-18T13:39:52.913-05:002013-12-18T13:39:52.913-05:00I agree, of all the 30 for 30s, I can't rememb...I agree, of all the 30 for 30s, I can't remember ever really disliking one. Some are weaker than others, sure, but they all move really well. Hope you have a chance to check those three out soon!Alex Withrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-72071660681644760872013-12-18T13:38:50.830-05:002013-12-18T13:38:50.830-05:00I LOVED Unguarded. Definitely a great one. Obvious...I LOVED Unguarded. Definitely a great one. Obviously, I highly recommend June 17, 1994 (such a technically audacious project) and Benji (utterly devastating).Alex Withrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-51425792793501439862013-12-18T13:36:58.126-05:002013-12-18T13:36:58.126-05:00I love that you like Benji. That one was so specia...I love that you like Benji. That one was so special. 9.79 nearly made my list. A fascinating doc.Alex Withrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-74194486296259236442013-12-18T13:36:29.559-05:002013-12-18T13:36:29.559-05:00I love 9.79. I'm so fascinated by concept of c...I love 9.79. I'm so fascinated by concept of compulsive lying, and that doc is a great examination of people who do that.<br /><br />I too think it's pretty cool to watch these without being a sports fan. I never have any idea what is going to happen as I'm watching them. I mean... unless we're talking about boxing, I often know NOTHING about any sporting event. Nothing. When I saw Miracle, the end was a surprise to me. Alex Withrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-28917487721397858732013-12-18T13:34:17.840-05:002013-12-18T13:34:17.840-05:00Oh man, I really need to rewatch Fernando Nation, ...Oh man, I really need to rewatch Fernando Nation, I haven't seen that one since it first aired. I love that you have a personal connection with it. <br /><br />I'll have to look for Sports in America. That, to me, is the <i>good</i> thing about sports. The side of sports I don't understand is when fans bicker, fight, kill over a game. I'll never grasp that concept. Alex Withrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-72314754440524378262013-12-18T12:40:31.654-05:002013-12-18T12:40:31.654-05:00I've seen at least parts of most of these. I ...I've seen at least parts of most of these. I happen across them on ESPN or ESPN2, usually after they have already started, and I end up watching them. Sometimes, like the recent Youngstown Boys, they immediately repeat it so I got to see the beginning of it after watching the end.<br /><br />I'd probably pick June 17th 1994 as my favorite.<br /><br />Do you have a complete list of the films in this series? I've usually noticed when I go to rate them on both Netflix and Letterboxd that many are missing the "30 for 30" designation so doing a general search for all of them in impossible.<br /><br />By the way, I had a sports documentary titled The Other Dream Team in my Top 10 of 2012. It's about the Lithuanian Olympic basketball team in 1992. If you haven't seen it I think it would be right up your alley, based on this post.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-78766304623501415242013-12-18T10:58:19.896-05:002013-12-18T10:58:19.896-05:00Petrovic also became a star, but his early death o...Petrovic also became a star, but his early death obviously hampered what could've been a legendary career. Dude was one of the best shooters of all time.Evanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270889107081469274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-6672616276842280122013-12-18T10:55:25.515-05:002013-12-18T10:55:25.515-05:00Catching Hell is the most tragic thing I've se...Catching Hell is the most tragic thing I've seen, being a cubs fan.<br /><br />It wasn't the World Series, it was the National League Championship game to go to the World Series.Evanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09270889107081469274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-46584910533758098662013-12-17T22:30:31.411-05:002013-12-17T22:30:31.411-05:00How did I miss Benji? I have seen almost all menti...How did I miss Benji? I have seen almost all mentioned here except that, Marinovich Project and Survive and Advance.<br /><br />I watch a lot of sports but even then, I was new to most of these stories. So when they became available on Instant, I watched a lot of them in quick succession. I don't remember one I didn't much care for. I think I will dig for the rest of them soon, certainly three on this list I missed.SDGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09331736603243732602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-86204197272227025452013-12-17T21:51:49.516-05:002013-12-17T21:51:49.516-05:00I've seen all of the ones you've listed ex...I've seen all of the ones you've listed except for your top 2 (hmmm). They are all wonderful watches. In fact, I haven't seen one I didn't like. If there was one you did not mention that had me absolutely nailed to my seat, it's "Unguarded," the story of NBA player Chris Herren. Great post!Dellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05634519605152190304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-26950778545947857892013-12-17T20:33:00.359-05:002013-12-17T20:33:00.359-05:00I have so much catching up to do with this series....I have so much catching up to do with this series. My favourites are Benji and 9.79.Shane Slaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04527212913193906828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-32476026198139626172013-12-17T20:27:41.602-05:002013-12-17T20:27:41.602-05:00It would be really interesting to have come at the...It would be really interesting to have come at these from a non-sports fan perspective. I'm sort of jealous. The majority of these I knew all the pertinent information going in so it's like I knew the stories themselves already and was looking for.....I don't know if I was looking for something "new" exactly, but maybe something unique, something where they tied the stories into something larger.<br /><br />"June 17" is definitely my favorite. "9.79" would be my runner up. But I mean really, so many of them have value.Nick Priggehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17895803287589438170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4784665635104956142.post-50645681354111380182013-12-17T20:14:07.534-05:002013-12-17T20:14:07.534-05:00I've seen the Without Bias doc but not the one...I've seen the <i>Without Bias</i> doc but not the ones you mentioned as I really am interested in seeing all of them. I've only seen a few as my favorite so far is <i>Fernandomania</i> about Fernando Valenzuela. For me as someone of Hispanic descent, Valenzuela is a big deal. A chubby guy from a small Mexican town who becomes this unlikely god of sorts as he would prove to be one of the greatest players ever.<br /><br />If I ever have some extra, extra cash. I'd get the entire box set for my dad.<br /><br />There is a good doc on HBO right now simply called <i>Sports in America</i> which simply talks about sports' importance in America and how it brings people together and such.thevoid99https://www.blogger.com/profile/03055459287396592446noreply@blogger.com